An Open letter to the Church Hierarchy and BCS in response to their Mails.

TO,
MR.GORDON D’SOUZA

WHERE WAS THE BCS AND WHAT IS ITS STAND ON THE MARINAGAR ISSUE?

HAS THE BCS BOOKED AN OFFICE ON MY  SOCIETYS GARDEN IN MARINAGAR?

IF SO THE MONEY WHICH THE BCS HAS USED IS PUBLIC MONEY WHICH HAS BEEN USED ?

I HAVE SENT A NUMBER OF MAILS TO THE BCS PRESIDENT ON THIS ISSUE BUT HE HAS CHOSEN TO REMAIN SILENT?

WHY HAS HE CHOSEN TO REMAIN SILENT?

IS IT BECAUSE THE CHURCH IS INVOLVED?

IN THE LAST 30 YEARS OF EXISTENCE( DESPITE ALL THE SUPPORT GIVEN TO YOUR ORGANISATION LIKE FREE OFFICES/ HALLS/ Church announcements ETC) BESIDES GIVING SCHOLARSHIPS AND HOLDING HEALTH CAMPS/ MEETS WHAT IS THAT SINGULAR ACHIEVEMENT WHICH YOU CAN CLAIM YOUR ORGANISATION HAS DONE TO HELP THE CATHOLICS? THESE THINGS WHAT YOU DO CAN BE DONE BY ANY NGO WITHOUT HAVING THE NAME CATHOLIC ATTACHED TO IT.

I USUALLY DO NOT COMMENT ABOUT OTHER GROUPS BUT SINCE YOU HAVE DARED TO  COMMENT ON MINE I AM FORCED TO REACT.

HAVE YOU BEEN ABLE TO GET ONE SEAT FOR THE CATHOLIC COMMUNITY IN ANY ELECTION?

OR ARE OFFICE BEARERS USING THE BCS FOR THEIR OWN BENEFIT?

I CAN NAME THE PERSONS WHO WHILE HOLDING POSTS OF THE BCS MANAGING COMMITTEE HAVE LOBBIED TO GET MLA/ MUNICIPAL CORPORATORS TICKETS AND HAVE SUBMITTED NOMINATIONS FOR THE POST OF VICE CHAIRMAN OF THE MINORITIES COMMISSION.

IN FACT OFFICE BEARERS OF BCS SHOULD HAVE PROMOTED OTHERS FOR THESE POSTS BUT THE FACT REMAINS THAT CERTAIN OFFICEBEARERS THEMSELVES USED THE POST OF BCS TO BARGAIN FOR THEMSELVES TO GET TICKETS/ GOVERNMENT POSTS.

SO BEFORE COMMENTING ON OTHERS BUSINESSES SEE WHAT YOU YOURSELF ARE DOING.

IN FACT IN THE PAST BCS HELD A MEETINGS AND GAVE WRONG INFORMATION WHICH I HAD WRITTEN TO YOU WITH THE CORRECT FIGURES WHICH I HAD OBTAINED UNDER RTI AND YOU DID NOT GET BACK TO ME.

IN THE PAST BCS HAD A MEETING AND IN WHICH A PANEL SPEAKER A CONSUMER COURT ADVOCATE TOLD THE AUDIENCE THAT GOING TO CIVIL COURTS FOR CONVEYANCE MEANS SPENDING LAKHS OF RUPEES AS COURT FEE AS PER THE VALUE OF THE PROPERTY WHEN IN FACT COURT FEE OF LESS THAN RS.300 IS PAYABLE FOR A SUIT FILED FOR CONVEYANCE.

As far as my organisation goes we do not operate from any free office. We do not collect money from any person nor do we get Church help in any form. Whatever is being done is being done in our personal capacity and most of all we do not make use of any Church Post for our personal ambitions.

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To,

The Church Hierarchy,

IN THE PAST , FR. NIGEL BARRET HAS DEFAMED THE AOCC BY CALLING IT A FRINGE GROUP IN HIS INTERVIEW AS SPOKESPERSON FOR THE ARCHDIOCESE OF MUMBAI which is published on the net on the Sanal Issue.In an e mail received from the Cardinal by me, I have been informed that the Cardinal had not told him to call any groups name , thus Fr. Nigel has misused his post of Spokesperson of the Archdiocese when he gave the said interview.

In the e mail attached below HE GOES TO STATE THAT ” The Archdiocese takes all allegations seriously“. PLEASE GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT. THE ARCHDIOCESE IS SELECTIVE IN ITS TAKING UP OF ISSUES.

I HAD WRITTEN TO THE ARCHBISHOP OF BOMBAY ABOUT MARINAGAR IN THE YEAR 2009 TILL TODAY NOTHING HAS BEEN DONE.One Lakh Seventy Thousand sq.feet of FSI have been fraudulently obtained on the basis of bogus documents.

I HAD WRITTEN ABOUT GLORIOSSA WHERE THE CHURCH HAS STILL NOT GOT ITS 12 FLATS TILL TODAY and in fact allowed the builder to sell the said 12 one bedroom hall kitchen flats without taking any collateral. HOW MANY CATHOLICS WOULD HAVE BEEN GIVEN THIS INTEREST FREE LOAN WITHOUT ANY COLLATERAL.

I HAD WRITTEN ABOUT THE COMMUNITY HALL, TERRACE WHICH THE CHURCH IN DADAR HAD TO GET AND HAS STILL NOT GOT TILL TODAY.

I had written about shops on lease given on 11 months lease in 1996 and till today not taken back. The shops are located on the main LJ road in Mahim.

I had written of an e mail being sent from Snehalaya Mahim to a lady in Dadar which had sexually overtones and also made obscene references to her niece. Till today nothing has been done. In fact the authorities were protecting the said Priest.

Most of these ISSUES DO NO AFFECT TWO PEOPLE AS IN FR. CONRADS CASE BUT AFFECT THOUSANDS OF PERSONS AND FAMILIES and not lakhs but crores of rupees are involved.

WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO THE FINANCE COMMISSION INQUIRY IN MARINAGAR WHICH  CARDINAL OSWALD GRACIAS GAVE A QUOTE IN DNA NEWSPAPER IN THE 2011? WHY IS ITS REPORT NOT OUT till today?

Why is no police complaint lodged despite giving the archdiocese a copy of the letter given of one Fr.Adrin Pereira who it was claimed was the then Parish Priest of Our Lady of Egypt Church Kalina having his forged signature and given to transfer property in the City Survey Office?

Why should 4 families be on the road due to the acts of Fr. John Rumao? In fact then Fr. Dominic Savio Fernandes now Bishop gave the deal a clean chit when in fact there was no Charity Commissioners sanction on the date the expired Power of Attorney was used to register the deal in 2005. In fact the Church got 3,51,000/- in the year 2005 while the Government of Maharashtra will get over Rs.21,00,000/- as stamp duty. Just imagine the extent the property was undervalued.

In fact if the religious do not understand about properties they should not comment on the same.But my experience has been that all the positive points were only highlighted by Fr.Dominic Savio Fernandes in his letter submitted to Court regarding the Valerian / Vakola property and no mention was mentioned that a High Court Suit for specific performance was pending in respect of the same plot on the date he gave his so called clean chit. No mention was made that Charity Commissioners sanction had expired more that 5 years prior to the date of registration of the document and that the money was paid years after it was supposed to be paid. It was a fantastic cover up job.

Not just that Fr.Dominic Savio Fernandes defamed me , then apologised and said that he still stood by his statement. Today I have documents in my possession which shows that the deal took place in 2008 between the Church and the builder and 70 % of tenants consent is not there in the MHADA file which is mandatory. Since he stood by his statement it means he knew and knows everything.The Church never owned Quinny House yet has submitted documents in Mhada showing that it owns Quinny House. All Quinny House tenants have been rehoused way bach in 1997 but the Church has submitted documents that they are yet to be rehoused.Today my challenge to him is lets have a debate on the Marinagar issue and let us see whether you still stand by your statement and whether he knows what the law is and that conveyance is to be given in 4 months of society registration.They talk about humility but till today none of the persons involved have had the guts to even phone me up or telephone me to tell me that they are sorry for what they did. Yes some persons do need retreats and treatment.

Five buildings which the Church still owns are shown as MHADA as already in the scheme for redevelopment.The Church has been fooled and cheated. Yet nothing is being done.

Isn’t the Church selective in its actions.

My questions is WHY SHOULD THE CHURCH BE SELECTIVE IN ITS ACTIONS?

Act against all uniformly. There should never be any favourites that is what our religion teaches us.

A.M.Sodder

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Statement of Fr. Nigel Barrett – 

Since Fr. Conrad has gone public, we need to make a few points clear by way of background information. The Archdiocese received allegations of serious misconduct by Fr Conrad Saldanha. An inquiry was conducted and, based on the findings of the inquiry committee, appropriate remedial measures were imposed. These remedial measures included a guided retreat and therapeutic counseling in Bangalore. Both these remedial steps were to help Fr. Conrad reintegrate himself with the Church and the community he serves. Fr. Conrad, till date, has refused to accept and undertake these remedial measures. Instead, he has appealed to Rome against the decision. Rome (i.e. the Vatican) rejected the appeal. Fr Conrad has made a second appeal to a higher competent authority. This appeal is under due process and it would not be appropriate to comment on it. The Archdiocese takes all allegations seriously and so, in the best interests of the people of the Archdiocese, it was decided to house Fr. Conrad in the Seminary – in a prayerful environment and away from community – till such time the matter is satisfactorily resolved. There have been several attempts made by the cleaning staff to clean Fr. Conrads room, he does not open the room to let them in and keeps them waiting for periods of time. If his room is not clean it is not because the is a lack of willingness from the seminary or the cleaning staff. We have made several attempts to reach out to Fr. Conrad at every level but he remains unresponsive and uncommunicative. If there is anyone who would be willing to mediate with Fr. Conrad, we would be happy to engage in dialogue with him.

A.M.SODDER

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25 Responses to An Open letter to the Church Hierarchy and BCS in response to their Mails.

  1. Wilma says:

    The Archdiocese seems to be working over zealously to protect their back side when their front side is burning. There are others too who have joined in the fray not because they want to douse the fire but more so because they may be some nuggets for them!

    Shame! we can’t imagine to what extent people can go to in order to seek office or remain in office or to seek an higher office.

  2. Oh no, This name sake of mine has now put his head out of his shell.

    Let me remind him that when there was the Parle cross issue, the locals booed him out. Take his communication with a pinch of salt.
    I see you have asked some questions, keep up the pressure, these fellows need to be shamed in public and in the media.

    However like always, we will continue to fight for the truth and Justice. The people have now realised.

  3. Peter Drego says:

    Mr. Sodder, the main crook in all this Marinager issues & to mislead the Cardinal is xxxxx! he is the one instigating all the Cardinal to do all mischief!

  4. Peter Drego says:

    And yes you are absolutely correct to say that the AB replies to only select emails or letters. It a Political party at the end of the day!

  5. Berryl says:

    If that is the case then Fr. Nigel Barrett has been abusing his office as spokesperson of the Archdiocese. If he is man of conscience he will resign or the Cardinal should ask him to resign.

    But I am confident that this will never happen and unfortunately they are doing it in the church of God.

  6. I am simply sick and tired of getting my in box cluttered up with all the ravings and rantings via the various ” open letters ” emails etc.
    It is pathetic that all these well meaning people continue to rave, rant and resort to an assortment of name calling — here I must say that I am also one of them who has called the Archbishop of Bombay “deaf, dumb and blind ”
    Where has it got us, and what has it achieved — a big ” NOTHING “–
    To the contrary the crooks are just cocking a snook at all of us concerned folks.
    Like the lone voice in the wilderness, I have been crying myself hoarse asking that A O C C get registered as an N G O. The process is a bit long drawn — but it is achievable — I have managed to get it done for the N G O that I am attached to here in Lonavla.
    Once we — A O C C are registered as a recognised body representing the Catholics of India just watch the changes that come about. All these corrupt clergy will come to their senses and know that their days of fun and games are over.
    All you guys/gals stop your raving and ranting and get cracking with the process o getting registered– my personal guarantee– all this thievery will stop.
    I have offered my help.
    I am seriously considering getting myself removed from all these ” WELL MEANING ” mailing lists

  7. Yesterday I have put a post on Pope Francis’ Face book page imploring him to pay attention to all that is going on in the Archdiocese of Bombay

  8. shailet says:

    When will Fr. Conrad’s issue looked at and solved ??? As ordinary people we do not understand the land dealings etc… but yess as a person know fr. and want him to be back in his place than just be given some answer and kept quite. We need solutions for the issues…..

  9. Anna says:

    Why is FR. NIGEL BARRET has highlighted Fr. Conrad Saldanha”s issue in RED. Let me tell you it is total rubbish and full of LIES. Never expected this from a Catholic Priest, and putting words in in the mouth of people who do not know Fr. Conrad. This msg have gone viral and along with old msg. again (Whiisper clergy….). Instead you deserve to go out of the Catholic Church as you stand a very wrong example to the Catholics Faith.

    WE ALL LOOK FORWARD TO SEE REV. FR. CONRAD SALDANHA SOON AT THE ALTER OF THE CHURCH…..

    Let me remind you that FR. NIGEL BARRET, an ORDAINED PRIEST IS A PRIEST FOR EVER.

  10. unita says:

    Part I (Issued on the Feast of St John Vianney; 4th August, 2014)
    (Reply to the Archdiocesan rebuttal to the Mumbai Mirror Article, issued on 2nd August)

    Canon 1446:-1). All the Christian faithful, and especially bishops, are to strive diligently to avoid litigation among the people of God as much as possible, without prejudice to justice, and to resolve litigation peacefully as soon as possible.

    The desperation of the Archdiocese and the Bishops to save their face in the light of the Mumbai Mirror exposure is evident from the Press statement issued by them and widely circulated.
    The words that communicates their desperation, besides the aspersions cast, is this: “It is necessary here to first understand that Fr. Conrad has been uncooperative and uncommunicative with all who have tried to reach out to him from the very beginning, and one gets the impression that he is not interested in remedying the situation“ . – Instead this is a highly defamatory statement against Fr. Conrad (besides the many lies)

    The fact that there is a rejoinder to the Archdiocesan statement, by Fr. Nigel Barrett communicating the same desperation (*quoted below) is proof of their sorry state.
    There are many who have allowed themselves to be fooled by this Archdiocesan statement and some have even sat in judgment and now begun to pontificate over Fr. Conrad and made irresponsible statements in the media; some even to suit their own personal agenda.
    One need not have a counter statement by Fr. Conrad to see the falsity in the Archdiocesan response to the Mumbai Mirror article. One has only to ask these questions:
    – Could it be true that Fr. Conrad is tortured precisely on account of his “Unresponsive and un communicative ways” so as to get him to the table to talk? YES, there is a great bit of truth in that statement!
    – So the Archdiocese thinks that this is the way to go: torture him till he submits to dialogue (read: Submission to our demands and acknowledging the aspersions we have cast on him)
    – Because when he arrives at the dialogue table he will succumb to our demands because our torture will make him do that. If not he will leave in desperation because we want him to go: “While the press officer said Father Saldanha was free to leave the seminary if he was unhappy” Mumbai Mirror, 1st August, 2014
    – A person who is interested in a dialogue doesn’t make such irresponsible statements.
    – The reality is this: Fr. Conrad has arrived at the dialogue table BUT each time he has arrived at the dialogue table he has been taken round in circles by the Cardinal and his auxiliaries to hide their own shameful acts.
    Here are the other facts that communicate that Fr. Conrad is not unresponsive or uncommunicative in spite of all the torture, mental harassment and humiliations he is subjected to?
    – Fr. Conrad prefers a written dialogue rather than a verbal dialogue because he knows from his many experiences that the Archbishop and his coteries are INCAPABLE of verbal dialogue because they can’t stand by their spoken word. They need to also go back to the school of dialogue to understand what dialogue is all about.
    – In spite of that Fr. Conrad has still sat at the dialogue table and has meticulously noted down the minutes of the meeting and sent them to the Cardinal who has not had the guts to acknowledge it. We challenge him to go public with the various minutes submitted by Fr. Conrad if he has the mettle!
    – In the many written correspondence with the Cardinal, in the initial 1 ½ yrs only there are ample proofs of Fr. Conrad being taken round in circles in the dialogical correspondence and if the Archbishop dares then we are willing to go public with these set of correspondence between him and Fr. Conrad.
    – If they can’t stand by a written word than why instigate the people against Fr. Conrad by a fresh rejoinder statement to the original press response, by Rev. Fr. Nigel Barrett: *“If there is anyone who would be willing to mediate with Fr. Conrad, we would be happy to engage in dialogue with him.”
    All this evidently proves one point on the part of the Archbishop & et al: A unilateral andAUTHORITARIAN approach to the whole problem without listening to Fr. Conrad’s side of the story, right from the beginning.
    As for Fr. Conrad, he will endure the torture but will not accept the lies of the Bishops being imposed on him right from the beginning, both for his own good and for the larger good of the church. If they are truthful then why is the innocent sounding Archbishop Cardinal Oswald Gracias refusing to meet Advocate Arthur D’Mello in a spirit of openness.
    Canon 384:-He (Bishop) is to have a special concern for the priests, to whom he is to listen as his helpers and counselors. He is to defend their rights and ensure that they fulfill the obligations proper to their state. He is to see that they have the means and the institutions needed for the development of their spiritual and intellectual life. He is to ensure that they are provided with adequate means of livelihood and social welfare, in accordance with the law.

  11. Johnnie Evans says:

    It needs to be put in the newspaper in Rome & India . Marinagar issue was during whose tenure? How much money has been swallowed . He has cheated the laity. . As he sowed Evil, he is reaping it on Earth!

  12. unita says:

    Part I (Issued on the Feast of St John Vianney; 4th August, 2014)
    (Reply to the Archdiocesan rebuttal to the Mumbai Mirror Article, issued on 2nd August)

    Canon 1446:-1). All the Christian faithful, and especially bishops, are to strive diligently to avoid litigation among the people of God as much as possible, without prejudice to justice, and to resolve litigation peacefully as soon as possible.

    The desperation of the Archdiocese and the Bishops to save their face in the light of the Mumbai Mirror exposure is evident from the Press statement issued by them and widely circulated.
    The words that communicates their desperation, besides the aspersions cast, is this: “It is necessary here to first understand that Fr. Conrad has been uncooperative and uncommunicative with all who have tried to reach out to him from the very beginning, and one gets the impression that he is not interested in remedying the situation“ . – Instead this is a highly defamatory statement against Fr. Conrad (besides the many lies)

    The fact that there is a rejoinder to the Archdiocesan statement, by Fr. Nigel Barrett communicating the same desperation (*quoted below) is proof of their sorry state.
    There are many who have allowed themselves to be fooled by this Archdiocesan statement and some have even sat in judgment and now begun to pontificate over Fr. Conrad and made irresponsible statements in the media; some even to suit their own personal agenda.
    One need not have a counter statement by Fr. Conrad to see the falsity in the Archdiocesan response to the Mumbai Mirror article. One has only to ask these questions:
    – Could it be true that Fr. Conrad is tortured precisely on account of his “Unresponsive and un communicative ways” so as to get him to the table to talk? YES, there is a great bit of truth in that statement!
    – So the Archdiocese thinks that this is the way to go: torture him till he submits to dialogue (read: Submission to our demands and acknowledging the aspersions we have cast on him)
    – Because when he arrives at the dialogue table he will succumb to our demands because our torture will make him do that. If not he will leave in desperation because we want him to go: “While the press officer said Father Saldanha was free to leave the seminary if he was unhappy” Mumbai Mirror, 1st August, 2014
    – A person who is interested in a dialogue doesn’t make such irresponsible statements.
    – The reality is this: Fr. Conrad has arrived at the dialogue table BUT each time he has arrived at the dialogue table he has been taken round in circles by the Cardinal and his auxiliaries to hide their own shameful acts.
    Here are the other facts that communicate that Fr. Conrad is not unresponsive or uncommunicative in spite of all the torture, mental harassment and humiliations he is subjected to?
    – Fr. Conrad prefers a written dialogue rather than a verbal dialogue because he knows from his many experiences that the Archbishop and his coteries are INCAPABLE of verbal dialogue because they can’t stand by their spoken word. They need to also go back to the school of dialogue to understand what dialogue is all about.
    – In spite of that Fr. Conrad has still sat at the dialogue table and has meticulously noted down the minutes of the meeting and sent them to the Cardinal who has not had the guts to acknowledge it. We challenge him to go public with the various minutes submitted by Fr. Conrad if he has the mettle!
    – In the many written correspondence with the Cardinal, in the initial 1 ½ yrs only there are ample proofs of Fr. Conrad being taken round in circles in the dialogical correspondence and if the Archbishop dares then we are willing to go public with these set of correspondence between him and Fr. Conrad.
    – If they can’t stand by a written word than why instigate the people against Fr. Conrad by a fresh rejoinder statement to the original press response, by Rev. Fr. Nigel Barrett: *“If there is anyone who would be willing to mediate with Fr. Conrad, we would be happy to engage in dialogue with him.”
    All this evidently proves one point on the part of the Archbishop & et al: A unilateral andAUTHORITARIAN approach to the whole problem without listening to Fr. Conrad’s side of the story, right from the beginning.
    As for Fr. Conrad, he will endure the torture but will not accept the lies of the Bishops being imposed on him right from the beginning, both for his own good and for the larger good of the church. If they are truthful then why is the innocent sounding Archbishop Cardinal Oswald Gracias refusing to meet Advocate Arthur D’Mello in a spirit of openness.
    Canon 384:-He (Bishop) is to have a special concern for the priests, to whom he is to listen as his helpers and counselors. He is to defend their rights and ensure that they fulfill the obligations proper to their state. He is to see that they have the means and the institutions needed for the development of their spiritual and intellectual life. He is to ensure that they are provided with adequate means of livelihood and social welfare, in accordance with the law.

    • This is one big Mafia style operation with HQ at Rome.. Cardinal and his three wise men have been caught with their cassocks up and they are unable to face Adv Arthur D’mello and I am sure paint a different picture to The Holy father.
      As for comments by Nigel Barrett ,he is like the old radio ” HMV” Hi masters voice and his views are like a mouse fart in the next room. Of course there will be opinions from church mice who find it a privilege to scamper around the cassock helms of the clergy. Let them have their point view.
      How come our Dear Cardinal is as silent as a gave yard?

      • Francis S. Lobo says:

        Whatever happening with Fr. Conrad is against the human rights and it is a very serious issue.

      • Peter Drego says:

        It is funny to see the media talk about stripping Saif Ali Khan of his Padma Shri when we have a priest running an addition center who is a goonda! Cardinal Oswald is scared of him.

  13. Johnnie Evans says:

    I am telling you’ll since beginning, Advocate xxxxx xxxxxx is influencing the Cardinals wrongly. He came to Marinagar. After that what did he do?

  14. Mario says:

    There is unwanted gossips going around not only about Fr. Conrad and also other suffering Priests of our faithful, but have remained silent . Instead we need to pray before judging the priests, they are the instruments of God. The priests can only survive with our prayers. Hoping for your support to Priests..

    • Of course we should pray for them . Yet prayer alone will not work. There needs to be repentance,many of them have repented, yet they still remain dammed as church politics play an important game in the administration.There are different yard sticks for different people.Its who you know in the AB castle that decides. What about those who have been selling off church property and assets, and have been caught and continue to enjoy the favor of the big daddies?.
      What about the one who attempted to sell off a antique consecrated wooden alter at a Village at Mumbai, Vasai (Papdi), and is still floating around in one of the parishes of Mumbai.
      I hope some one can give a answer and dont give the age old advice ” God will punish”. Thanks

  15. Some time ago I had written about the transfer of tenancies in Khotachi Wadi, Girgaum, to non-Caatholics during the regime of a crooked ” parish priest ?? ” of St. Stephen’s Church, Cumballa Hill.. I had named this crooked, thieving horrid ” priest ??” — I had dared them to sue me for libel or any other charge of their fancy— I GARE THEM ONCE AGAIN
    Why was no action taken against this ” priest ?? ”
    The archbishop of Bombay just stayed quiet .
    Crores of Rupees changed hands; and presently that crooked ” priest ?? ” is spending his last days enjoying the sanctuary of the ” OLD PRIESTS’ HOME ”
    Hey you archbishop fellow– how does it feel to pompously wear those red robes and be such a
    ” BLACK ” person in reality ???
    Shameless person adviser to the POPE– what a joke !!!!!!!
    Are you not afraid, that like all of us, GOD will take an account from you as to how you misused your office and power.—
    It hurts me to write all this—when will our priests truly be like St Jean-Marie Vianney ???
    I doubt that day will come soon
    LET US PRAY !!!!!

  16. John Lobo says:

    Fergus why dont you write to Ivan Cardinal Dias on servus@urbaniana.edu. He will responsible for all this mess. Why harrow the current purple cloackie.

    • John, There are all one big mafia gang. They have exploited the finance and assets. There is no use even talking to them.. just expose them and all their wrongdoings, from top to bottom.

  17. cyril albuquerque says:

    crooks should be hanged in public

  18. As I keep saying let us get registered as a N G O with the Charity Commissioner and then get 80 g approval from the Income Tax authorities. We can then file a Public Interest Litigation in the High Court and drag these crooks to jail
    Why are you guys not listening– and carrying on with all these BUMF emails to all and sundry — it is of no use — these guys just laugh under their HOLY ?? collars — because we are like barking dogs with absolutely NO BITE

    • Peter Prabhu says:

      Go to the Sub Registrar and dig out the sale deed dated 27th Mar’14, it is an under rated agreement. You can imagine the amount of black money stacked and manipulation. So Marinager is nothing! tell the Sodder brothers as well.

  19. John Lobo says:

    Has the Cardinal finally stated what is the issue, who was responsible and where is the money?

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