Clapping in the Church – John Menezes

Some years ago, when I had attended a choral performance in St. Thomas Cathedral, Fort, before the start of the performance the Anglican pastor announced that the cathedral was a holy place and the audience was requested not to clap or to speak unduly loud during the intermission. The cover of The Examiner, July 6, shows Cardinal Oswald Gracias clapping after he had completed the ordination of his two auxiliaries on June 29, inside St. Michael’s Church, Mahim. Clapping has become a regular feature in Mumbai churches at marriages. Would the church authorities of the Archdiocese of Bombay please take note of how the Anglicans respect what they honour as the House of God? John Menezes

Some comparisons of the Traditional in Green  and 1968 rites of Episcopal Consecration in RED

Action Traditional rite 1968 rite Imposition of hands and position of the Book of the Gospels

The consecrator, with the help of the assisting bishops, places the Book of the Gospels on the shoulders and neck of the Bishop Elect (B.E.). and it remains there during the Imposition of Hands, the Preface which ends with the Form of the Sacrament, the Veni Creator, the annointing of the B.E.’s crown, continuation of the Preface, annointing of the B.E.’s hands, blessing and handing over of the crozier and ring, and thereafter only is the Book of the Gospels lifted and handed over to the B.E.

The imposition of hands is without the Book of Gospels, then thereafter the consecrator places the open book on the head of the B.E. and the deacons on both sides raise it when the prayer of consecration is begun, and hold it above his head till the prayer of consecration is over.

Invocation by consecrator on handing the Book of the Gospels to the B.E.

Take thou the Gospel, and go forth, preach to the people who are entrusted to thee. For God is powerful, to augment his grace for thee, who liveth and reigneth for ever and ever, Amen.

Receive the Gospel and preach the word of God, always teaching with great patience.

Thanksgiving

The Consecrator intones the Te Deum, the Church’s hymn of praise, and the choir continues

The consecrator smiles and claps and the bishops, clergy and faithful present join.

 

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3 Responses to Clapping in the Church – John Menezes

  1. Ladislaus L D'Souza says:

    John Menezes has raised a very important and valid point with regard to clapping in Church. But one need not bother to refer to customs or practices in other Churches, be it the Anglican or whatever to justify our argument/s. For the truth is, there is absolutely no place in the Liturgy for CLAPPING, be it at an ordination, a consecration, a nuptial Mass, induction of parish pastoral councillors or whatever – just as there is again no provision in the Liturgy for that ‘Good Morning’ and ‘Good Evening’ practice followed by some our Reverends! At the drop of a pin there’s a call for a round of applause – never mind that one of those holy ones with not much of a command over the language announced, “Come on yeuribuddy! Let us all give dam (newly-weds) a rouuund applause!” A member of the congregation approached the priest after Mass and said: “Father, when there’s a wedding we have to give the couple a ‘rouuund’ applause, no? Then when do we give a square applause?” “At a fooneral off qwars” came the prompt reply! One surmises that a wedding involves the exchange of rings (rouuund!) and a “fooneral” involves half a square!!!
    There’s been a conscientious effort on the part of those concerned to educate the laity as regards the Liturgy by way of courses and seminars. with the result that today there are more and more lay people who know and understand better the rubrics of the Mass. But how much of it applies to our priests is a different question. Understanding and appreciating each part of the Mass makes for fuller participation on the part of the congregation. Now if the same understanding and appreciation prevailed among the ordained, we wouldn’t have to be spending precious time and energy raising such issues and trying to get the abominations corrected.

  2. ralphpaulcoelho says:

    Too bad that people do not understand that anything that is indecorous, whether word or snag or dress, or posture or action is an intentional insult to the Lord whose house it is irrespective of how happy it makes one or more people. They are very conscious of not allowing certain behaviour in their own home and do not extend the same consideration to the Lord’s house. It is interesting that the report is quoted from an Anglican clergyman; the essence of their gathering for worship is fellowship.and many Catholics hanker for the same – because they do not know why otherwise they come together.

  3. Why should clapping be not there in the Church ? What does the Word of God say :
    Psalms 47:1 “Clap your hands, all you peoples; shout to God with loud songs of joy.”

    Psalms 149: 1-6 “Praise the Lord! Sing to the Lord a new song, his praise in the assembly of the faithful. Let Israel be glad in its Maker; let the children of Zion rejoice in their King. Let them praise his name with dancing, making melody to him with tambourine and lyre. For the Lord takes pleasure in his people; he adorns the humble with victory. Let the faithful exult in glory; let them sing for joy on their couches. Let the high praises of God be in their throats.”

    Psalms 150: 3-6 “Praise him with trumpet sound; praise him with lute and harp! Praise him with tambourine and dance; praise him with strings and pipe! Praise him with clanging cymbals; praise him with loud clashing cymbals! Let everything that breathes praise the Lord! Praise the Lord! ”

    Even you all sing in the churches: ‘Clap your hands and sing Halleluiah’.

    Does anyone have the time to say Halleluiah (Praise the Lord) all the while – to praise GOD & to give glory ? Instead are engaged all worldly talks and desires. Therefore, Lord Jesus Christ said – Luke 21:34-36 “Be on guard so that your hearts are not weighed down with dissipation, drunkenness and the worries of this life, and that day does not catch you unexpectedly, like a trap. For it will come upon all who live on the face of the whole earth. Be alert at all times, praying that you may have the strength to escape all these things that will take place, and to stand before the Son of Man.”

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