Can We Trust Our Cardinals Blindly

One Cardinal advised the Pope to be thick skinned.Now one says that same sex unions are okay.Tommorow onw will say that there is nothing wrong with women priests.The list will go on and on.

This has to be nipped in the bud other wise the Church is bound to disintegrate

Belgium’s Cardinal Danneels okays same-sex unions

The row over same-sex marriageThe row over same-sex marriage

Sparks fly following a statement the cardinal made recently, saying: “I think it’s a positive development that states are free to open up civil marriage for gays if they want, but such unions should be given a different name than marriage.” He also pointed out that the Church has changed its idea on suicide

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Belgian cardinal Godfried Daneels – who recently turned 80, losing his eligibility to vote in the Conclave as well as his position in Rome’s various Congregations – has come under the spotlight for some controversial statements he made regarding same-sex unions and the protests held by Catholics and non-Catholics against the “Taubita law”, France’s same-sex marriage law.

 

“I think it’s a positive development that states are free to open up civil marriage for gays if they want,” Cardinal Daneels apparently told Dutch language newspaper De Tijd. He added, however, that such unions should be given a different name than marriage. In the eyes of the Church, a union between two people of the same sex is not “real marriage”. Real marriage can only be between a man and a woman. “But insofar as it is legal” “the Church does not have a say” in such laws, he apparently added.

 

Belgian French language newspaper L’Echo also quoted the cardinal saying that the French should obey the law and not oppose same-sex marriage. “We need to understand: The Church has never objected to the fact that there is a sort of ‘marriage’ between homosexuals – however  we’re talking about a sort of marriage. This is not the same as the true marriage between a man and a woman, so we need to find another word for the dictionary,” the cardinal said.

 

According to Danneels, today’s Church has developed a more “nuanced,” position without being “fixated” on moral principles. “How can a man not identify with his orientation? I think there is a clear evolution in the thinking of the Church.” He went on to compare the situation to the treatment of people who had committed suicide and were therefore denied burial in a Catholic cemetery, saying the Church now looks at the “totality” of the person.

 

Danneels was long known as one of the three European principals of the “liberal” bloc of the Catholic Church leadership. In the last two Conclaves he was also considered a possible candidate to succeed John Paul II – who created him cardinal in 1983 – and Benedict XVI. But his chances were radically weakened after all the criticism he received for his handling of sex-abuse cases in the Church.

 

2008 was a tough year for him after he was called to give evidence on cases of sex abuse. The cardinal stated he knew nothing about it (this was the first time a cardinal appeared before a Belgian court). But when Benedict accepted his resignation two years later, Cardinal Danneels had become entangled in the case of Fr. Roger Vangheluwe, a priest who was accused of abusing his grandson in the 70s and 80s. The abuse apparently began when Fr. Vangheluwe was a priest and carried on when he was bishop. Cardinal Danneels allegedly advised the victim to delay pressing charges until Vangheluwe, who was Bishop of Bruges at the time, had handed in his resignation. The bishop’s grandson then promptly handed a voice recording of his conversation with the cardinal to the press. One of the newspapers, De Standaard, justified Danneel’s behaviour to a certain extent, describing his action as “containment, nothing more.” It added that Danneels’ “only aim is to avoid having the case made public so many years after the facts. The police questioned the cardinal on the case, which a priest had apparently tried to alert him about in 1996 but was ignored. The case tainted the cardinal’s reputation so much that church attendance in Belgium and vocation numbers reached an all-time low.

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2 Responses to Can We Trust Our Cardinals Blindly

  1. Ralph Coelho Yahoo says:

    It is not about trusting Cardinals, or anyone else for that matter, as reported. Reporters report what they believe they hear which often is what they want to hear. It is not always deliberate misstatement but confirming a point of view.

    If you go back to the original, where possible, you may find a totally different meaning. A famous instance is the Regensburg Report. Certain sources are always to be read with caution, such as the New York Times; not because they are not truthful but they do have a certain persecute that colours their reports.

    For that matter, the same goes for the Bible or any document. The reader needs to consider if the content reported fits not a known framework of truth. Otherwise, take it under advice as they say; until you can verify it.

    Or again, you might refer to GS 18. This enjoins on the individual the responsibility to develop his personal understanding of why an action is questioned by conscience.

    Ralph

  2. I have read the articles which have accompanied these thoughts about whether we can trust our cardinals. I would like to offer my “tinpot” advice.
    1) When the Archbishop of Canterbury visits Pope Francis on 14th. June 2013 it may be wise for our Pope to ask the Archbishop what is the secret that there are no great known sex and financial scandals in the Protestant church; is it because their clergy are allowed to marry ?? or is it because they have done a very good job of covering it up ??. The answer could be interesting.
    2) In the session with Albanian and Italian Jesuit school students, Pope Francis very clearly brought out that he is first a Jesuit, then a priest, and now a Pope. What he was trying to gently get across is that every member of the clergy should think deeply about what St. Ignatius taught — HUMILITY. When he was asked why he did not live in a palace, or wear fancy robes and tons of jewels, his reply was as simple as a reply that perhaps would have been given by St. Jean Marie Vianney, the Cure D’Ars, he loves to be with people.
    What a superb divine reformation it would be if our clergy, particularly our fattened princes of the Church, begin to think, even in a small way, like Pope Francis.
    I am sure THE HOLY SPIRIT will find a way to change their mindset.

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