Papal Exhortation Spreading Confusion instead of clarity? Can divorced and remarried receive communion? dr.james kottoor

Papal Exhortation Spreading

Confusion instead of clarity?

Can divorced and remarried receive communion?

dr.james kottoor

“Errors like straw on the surface flow; those who want to search for pearls must dive below,” wrote Drydon long ago. It is in an effort to take this advise seriously, this rather longwinded article is published here, to help those ready to dive deep.

It was on April 8th that Francis Pappa released his long awaited Apostolic Exhortation on Family Life, “Joy of Love”. Ever since the global media has been flooded with reactions ranging from warm welcome, to graded appreciation, to frantic search for what is actually meant, to critical questions to a nearly total opposition to a document bursting all over with confusion and compromise rather than clarity and precision on controversial issues. CCV (Church Citizens’s Voice, http://www.almayasabdam.com) already published thought provoking opinions from New York Times, UK Guardian, Jesuit Catholic weekly America, Tablet UK, NCR,us, CRUX, Zenith, Vatican Insider and many more with our editorial notes. The latest one published “Confusion confounded instead of Clarity?” is from Tablet UK. This opinion piece is based on it mostly.

What is the great confusion in this exhortation? It is all about the question: Can divorced and remarried receive communion? According to traditional teaching of the Church, especially of previous Popes Benedict XVI and John Paul II who wrote a great deal on it, it is a definite NO because they are in a state of mortal sin. In the Joy of Love (Amoris Laetitia) Francis tells us, not to say they are in living in sin or in irregular situation the principle being never to be judgmental like a strict judge, but to be like a merciful Prodigal Father, never to be hung up on unchangeable doctrinal principles but on demands of practical pastoral needs of one dying in the battle field.

To take an example the Church must be like a mother trying to save the honor of her son accused of stealing, say $1000/- and pleading: “Please please don’t call my son a thief, don’t say please my son stole it, say instead he took it as he was in need!” So the motherly Francis is pleading in the Exhortation to understand that the divorced and remarried fully belong to the church, and can even receive communion (which is not only a reward for the perfect but a medicine for the sick) with the help of a conscience rectified by a counseling priest who is not to substitute or replace the conscience of the remarried. Now what does that sort of winding oneself in hundred knots mean? Yes or No? What we want to know is: if he/she is a saint or sinner? “Oh please con’t call anyone a sinner”, says Francis, (Recall also Vivekananda who also said the same in another context: “Don’t call man the crown and glory of creation a sinner!) “Don’t be judgmental” says Francis following his own example: “Who am I to judge!” But that doesn’t give us the Yes or No answer we are looking for. That means no clear answer from Francis , so all this confusion.

Now, who is an adulterer independent of what the exhortation says? Let us do a little hard talk. Jesus is very clear on it: “You have learnt how it was said: You must not commit adultry. But I say this to you. If a man looks at another woman lustfully, he has already committed adultery with her in his heart.”(Mat.5, 27) Wow! Then who among us is not an adulterer? No wonder why Francis was the first to describe himself: “I am sinner”? Also why the Synod fathers described themselves as (Sncti peccatori = Holy sinners) starting with the Holy Father who confesses every other day in public view.

Now do you get why the confusion is confounded? Although Jesus was forthright in enunciating the principle, when it came to applying it to the woman caught in adultery, he was ruthless not against the woman but against the Pharisees who was eloquent on applying the principle saying: “Let the one who has not sinned cast the first stone.” Jesus was acting like Francis. Turning to the woman he said: “Neither do I condemn you!”, again like Francis.

There was a young and enterprising priest who used to give a 3-part sermon every Sunday after reading the Gospel: Part 1. After reading the Gospel he used to tell those in the pews: “You have heard what Gospel has to say which is very clear and needs no explanation.” 2. Now what does the Church or church men say about it? Then He used to give various interpretations by the church. 3. Now you want to know what I think of it? Answering that he used to give his personal view. Then he used to conclude

saying: You are all very intelligent and literate people, so you draw your own conclusions and follow what your conscience dictates.

This is what this scribe has been saying for long ad nauseam and writing in these columns or outside. Just follow your commanding conscience formed honestly and prayerfully. If the conscience is commanding, know for certain, it is the voice of God and so just obey. You are the sacred living temple of God, far superior to any man-made brick-and-mortar dead chapels, churches, cathedrals or temples or mosques, and the conscience speaking to you from within you is the voice of the Deity enthroned in you. That is why you are called the temple of God or Holy Spirit. Recall the conversation between Jesus and the Samaritan woman at Jacob’s well.

If your conscience is caught between two or three doubts or options, just consult any available better informed person’s view, who need not at all be a priest or even a religious person, enough he be an honest and better informed person and then act. Even here, if you are not able to rid yourself of all doubts, just do one of the easiest of options you have in mind, because the principle is: (In dubio libertas) In doubt, any of the options are equally valid and acceptable before God.

So finding God and his guidance is the easiest thing in life, if our belief that God exists and that he is really the Father figure of all, is an uncontested truth. All humans – wise, foolish, ignorant, illiterate, rich, poor – need not go any where searching. They have only to look within themselves and listen to their consciences. Recall the famous song composed by Fr. Abel (one of my saintly friends gone to heaven: Iswarane Thedi (in Malayalam). Its substance is this: “I wandered all over the world, across sea and deserts looking for God’s foot steps, all in vain. Finally I turned into myself, into my heart. Lo and behold there He is. My heart is His abode and Love is His name, shape and features.”

Otherwise, follow the advise given to sailors at sea totally run out of water, terribly thirsty and unaware of their actual location: “If you are dying of thirst, just drop the bucket because you are sailing in the face of Amazon full of clean,clear potable water not tainted by salt.” And for God’s help and guidance, just peep into yourself, to your conscience speaking to you. That is the Voice of God talking to you constantly.

Of course, all what is said above is the considered conviction of this scribe which no one is bound to follow, as one is bound to follow one’s own conscience. What I wish to request humbly, is that our well-meaning readers react honestly, fearlessly and boldly expressing their views, imitating the readers of Clifford Longley’s article: in the Tablet weekly, given below.

What follows is Longley’s article: “Pope created confusion where we needed Clarity” and readers’ reaction at the end:

Still they argue, argue, argue. Yes he did; no he didn’t. He can; he can’t. What exactly did Pope Francis intend to convey by chapter eight of his apostolic exhortation Amoris Laetitia? Conservatives say Pope Francis cannot have meant that “divorced and remarried Catholics could be admitted to Holy Communion in certain circumstances”, as many have interpreted the document, because that would be plain contrary to long-standing Catholic practice sanctioned by the magisterium.

But that would have meant that he too is a conservative, and we know he is a liberal. We are free to interpret his words in the light of that. But why the uncertainty? Why couldn’t he have spelt it out with a simple statement such as the one above? Was he under pressure, for instance facing threats of resignation from senior cardinals in the Vatican, so he had to create a smoke screen so everyone could claim a victory? How does that help the rest of us, or at least those of us who aren’t conservative curial cardinals? He has created confusion precisely where there needs to be clarity.

In every other respect Amoris Laetitia is a pastoral triumph. But not this one. It is a mess. In those circumstances the only possible advice is to follow the instincts and intuitions of one’s conscience as honestly as possible, consulting whomever one likes in the process. Let liberals interpret the document liberally and conservatives conservatively. But don’t let anybody tell them they are wrong, because nobody knows that for sure.

I have to say, on a forensic examination of the text alongside other previous statements on these issues, that the Pope’s conservative critics do have a point; indeed several of them. Saying that doesn’t alter my fundamental conclusion that the liberals are right – the Pope’s intention is that divorced and remarried Catholics can receive Holy Communion in certain circumstances. But let’s face it, many of them do already.

There are several places in the text where Pope Francis could be accused of disingenuousness – I hesitate out of respect to say dishonesty – by drawing conclusions that do not follow from the

evidence he cites, by choosing selectively from some of the sources he quotes, and by ignoring related passages which go against his argument. If I had written this document and taken such liberties with the evidence, I would be very uneasy. These are the sorts of weaknesses which, had they occurred in a document at the centre of a libel action, would have been mercilessly exposed under cross examination by a well briefed counsel.

Take footnote 345 in paragraph 302, which refers to a 2000 statement by the Pontifical Council for Legislative Texts called Declaration Concerning the Admission to Holy Communion of Faithful Who are Divorced and Remarried. The passage in Amoris Laetitia to which the footnote is attached states “…a negative judgment about an objective situation does not imply a judgement about the imputability or culpability of the person.” It can be deduced that this refers specifically to the issue of the admission of divorced and remarried Catholics to Communion from an earlier sentence in the previous paragraph – “Hence it can no longer simply be said that all those in any ‘irregular’ situation are living in a state of mortal sin and are deprived of sanctifying grace.”

Yet the entire argument of the 2000 document points emphatically and unambiguously the other way. The issue here is the correct interpretation of Canon 915 – “Those … who obstinately persist in manifest grave sin, are not to be admitted to Holy Communion.” It refers to unnamed authors who “offer various interpretations of the above-cited canon that exclude from its application the situation of those who are divorced and remarried”. It then lists those interpretations and dismisses each one. The degree of subjective culpability – the good faith of the remarried Catholic – is not relevant, it says; the test is objective, and applies to all those who are in this situation regardless of how they got there, whether it was their fault, and what their conscience had to say about it. Whatever, they are “obstinately persisting in manifest sin.”

There is no pussy-footing here with the oft-quoted provision that to avoid scandal a priest should not publicly refuse Communion even to someone he or she knows is not entitled to it under this rubric. “The minister of Communion must refuse to distribute it to those who are publicly unworthy,” it bluntly declares. Indeed it goes further, and says the priest must instruct deacons and lay Eucharistic ministers that they too must also refuse to distribute Communion to divorced and remarried Catholics. In other words they have to be told which members of the parish this applies to. This is an almost impossibly onerous responsibility to put upon a lay person, not to mention a probable breach of confidence by the priest. And it could lead to severe scandal in the parish. That does not seem to have occurred to the drafters.

I have never heard of a parish applying it. But why then does the Pope cite this appalling document, in support of his case that degree of subjective culpability must be taken into account, the exact opposite of what it plainly says? Why not just let this particularly nasty sleeping dog lie? It is mystifying.

Something similar happens when Pope Francis deals with the way this issue is treated in Pope John Paul II’s 1981 exhortation, Familiaris Consortio. It too followed a synod on the family, the year before. He quotes it as saying “Pastors must know that, for the sake of truth, they are obliged to exercise careful discernment of situations’.

He goes on to quote from the final report of the 2015 synod – “Therefore, while clearly stating the Church’s teaching, pastors are to avoid judgements that do not take into account the complexity of various situations, and they are to be attentive, by necessity, to how people experience and endure distress because of their condition”.

But Pope John Paul II did not stop there. “There is in fact a difference,” he insisted in 1981, “between those who have sincerely tried to save their first marriage and have been unjustly abandoned, and those who through their own grave fault have destroyed a canonically valid marriage. Finally, there are those who have entered into a second union for the sake of the children’s upbringing, and who are sometimes subjectively certain in conscience that their previous and irreparably destroyed marriage had never been valid.” All well and good so far…

But then, disregarding all that talk about discernment of various degrees of guilt, Pope John Paul II slams on the brakes and gives this unambiguously negative ruling: “However, the Church reaffirms her practice, which is based upon Sacred Scripture, of not admitting to Eucharistic Communion divorced persons who have remarried. They are unable to be admitted thereto from the fact that their state and condition of life objectively contradict that union of between Christ and the Church which is signified and effected by the Eucharist. Besides this, there is another special pastoral reason: if these people were admitted to the Eucharist, the faithful would be led into error and confusion regarding the Church’s teaching about the indissolubility of marriage.”

But Pope Francis does not quote this definitive declaration, surely central to this whole debate, and unless one knows quite a lot of recent church history, one might not even be aware of it. The impression he gives is that Pope John Paul II wants priests to discern culpability and proceed accordingly. Instead, at this point in the text, Familiaris Consortio changes direction. It is inconsistent, even incoherent. Did Pope Francis not know this?

It goes on in similar hardline vein by spelling out that the only divorced and remarried Catholics permitted to receive Holy Communion

are those who “take on themselves the duty to live in complete continence, that is, by abstinence from the acts proper to married couples.” This is the so-called “brother and sister” solution. Forget all about “careful discernment of situations” – abstinence from sexual relations is the only option.

In these passages Pope Francis is totally ignoring his predecessor’s negative ruling, but is quoting Familiaris Consortio as if it meant the opposite. The fact is I think Francis is right and John Paul II was wrong on the point of principle, but the fly in the ointment is the way quotations to back up his argument are taken from the earlier Pope selectively, and I would have to say, highly tendentiously.

The same thing happens with the brother and sister solution itself. It is mentioned both in Familiaris Consortio and in the 2000 Declaration regarding legislative texts. But it is not mentioned in connection with divorce in any document of the Second Vatican Council. Yet Pope Francis invokes a passage from Gaudium et Spes (Church in the Modern World) of 1965, to eliminate the brother and sister solution as a feasible option. Footnote 329 states that “many people, knowing and accepting the possibility of living ‘as brothers and sisters’ which the Church offers them, point out that if certain expressions of intimacy are lacking, ‘it often happens that faithfulness is endangered and the good of the children suffers’.” And gives the reference to the appropriate Gaudium et Spes paragraph. I am sure this is sound advice, but is it strictly honest to quote in support of it a remark from a Vatican II document that was discussing something else entirely?

What is irritating is that a good sub-editor, willing to shorten this overlong text by a few hundred words, could easily have left out these contentious misrepresentations and not weakened the argument one bit. Indeed, without them it would have less assailable and therefore stronger. Were they kept in deliberately, as a kind of sabotage by curial officials who did not like the way things were going? The one thing this demonstrates to me is that the claim that Pope Francis has not “changed” church doctrine is more spin than truth.

True, he hasn’t actually announced any changes. His text just ignores previous teachings that he does not agree with, and quotes the bits he does. He is the Pope after all – he is entitled to say about Familiaris Consortio what Cardinal Raymond Burke has said about Amoris Laetitia, that if anyone disagrees with it, it can safely be dismissed as one man’s personal opinion.

In fact it is far better than the 1981 document. Pope John Paul II was laying down rules and imposing them on people’s consciences – precisely what Pope Francis says church teaching should not do. Amoris Laetitia speaks to the truth of intimate human relationships like no other Catholic document I have ever come across.

It hands back to people the right to exercise their own moral judgements, asking their pastors for help when appropriate. It does not leave those pastors in the seat of judgement: they are no longer gatekeepers of the Sacraments, checking the passports of those who apply.

While congratulating him on it, I sincerely wish Pope Francis had been more careful with the evidence he cited. He has handed his critics more ammunition than he needed to. And so the arguments will go on and on – and on.

Given below are six reactions to the article above

which appeared in the UK Tablet weekly

1.Comment by: Louise,Posted: 19/04/2016

In response to Lepanto:’ This text is at a minimum, enormously dangerous. Confusion leads to variation in practice. Variation in practice leads to discord. Discord leads to scandal. Scandal destroys.’ The assumption appears to be that there was no confusion or discord or scandal in the minds of the faithful and clergy prior to the issuing of Amoris Laetitia. Clearly this assumption holds no water bearing in mind the deluge of scandals over the past few years, which Pope Francis is having to deal with. I fail to see how entrusting clergy to form consciences rather than replace them will automatically give rise to scandal. It is striking how little faith there is in some quarters in the ability of the servants of the Church to form mature Catholics. Amoris Laetitia is inspiring and humane. It is a joy.

2.Comment by: Terence Weldon, osted: 19/04/2016

Let’s be clear: It’s not Amoris Laetitia that is “sowing confusion” – it’s the doctrine itself. For example, the primacy of conscience is abundantly clear from accepted teaching, and it’s not appropriate for others to attempt to judge the state of another’s conscience. So, what then is “manifest grave sin?” Longley’s text itself notes the problems of the 2000 text of the Council for legislative texts, and also contradictory elements in the writing of John Paul II.

The further back we go in church teaching, the more contradictions emerge. Go back far enough in history, and we come to the celebrated Thomas Aquinas. But, as Francis notes in Amoris Laetitiae, much of modern perceptions of Thomistic moral theology are far removed from the main thrust of his theology.

That the confusion is evident in Amoris Laetitiae is no surprise. It has been widely noted that the draft was prepared by some of Francis’ closest confidantes – but was then subjected to additional revisions at the instigation of the CDF, anxious to retain their doctrinal supremacy (while Francis himself went out if his way in this document, to downplay the importance of doctrine as a set of rigid rules).

This confusion over Church teaching is especially obvious for the question of divorce and communion and remarriage, but it is also evident elsewhere – for example, concerning gay and lesbian people, who are barely mentioned in the document.

3. Comment by: Frank Callus, Posted: 19/04/2016

I think that the answer to Lepanto is to be found early in the Exhortation. Pope Francis reminds priests and bishops that they are to form consciences not replace them. In so doing he recognises the complexities of personal relationships and the need for people to find their place on the journey of salvation. There is a world of difference between a serial adulterer and a person, abandoned by his/her partner, trying to re-establish a new life. Jesus was clear about the issue when he spoke to the woman caught in adultery, but not before he had challenged her accusers with their own sinfulness. The Catholic Church is

being summoned to a new relationship with its sinful flock in the Year of Mercy, but within a perception that all of us are in need of this mercy and to believe otherwise is to delude ourselves.

4.Comment by: Lepanto,Posted: 19/04/2016

The CCC is very clear, as well as many historical teachings and council documents, on the nature of mortal sin. If a person is in a valid Catholic marriage by virtue of that, they know what adultery consists of. If they choose to leave their spouse and engage in sexual relations with another, that is adultery. Jesus was precise on this. “If a man looks at another woman with lust, he has committed adultery.” Wow, I wonder how that clear teaching is now viewed in light of this exhortation. How do we think Jesus reacted to those who heard this teaching of His, and later on persisted in lusting after women, under the guise of conscience? I would think He would look at them compassionately as always, but ask them: “Which word of my teaching did you not understand?” He really could not have been more precise on adultery, because adultery presupposes monogamous fidelity, even in the heart if not in the outward act. We are treading on thin ice at best when we attempt to reframe this teaching as if we know better than He did on this subject.

5.Comment by: Richard Brooke,Posted: 18/04/2016

In response to Lepanto, it never could, under traditional moral doctrine, simply be said of anyone else that they were in a state of mortal sin. Observable behaviour may be described as grievous matter, but traditional doctrine insists that full knowledge and full consent are also required for an act to constitute a mortal sin. Whether such a sin has occurred can be known in the first instance only to God, and to an individual penitent, who is the only person on earth who can judge the fullness of their knowledge and consent (albeit that they may draw on the wisdom of a confessor in reaching this judgement) . We do well to emulate Pope Francis’ “Who am I to judge?”, which both exemplifies the spirit of Christian mercy and is based on thoroughly traditional moral theology.

6.Comment by: Lepanto, Posted: 18/04/2016

The text: “it can no longer simply be said that those living in any irregular situation are in a state of mortal sin,” constitutes a clear change in discipline, and it also contradicts Church teaching. How can anyone argue this is not the case? “It can no longer be…” Where does license to discern stop? Are there any objectively immoral “irregular” situations anymore? This text is at a minimum, enormously dangerous. Confusion leads to variation in practice. Variation in practice leads to discord. Discord leads to scandal. Scandal destroys. We need the Church to pick up the torch of chastity and inspire the faithful to this forgotten virtue, versus giving us a way through our conscience, to rationalize culpability of grave matter. Is that not the same temptation that Adam and Eve fell into, to decide on their own what was good and evil, to be like gods, versus abiding by the clear boundary which God has established in His mercy, as represented by the tree of knowledge? May God help us all. Contact at: jameskottoor@gmail.com, Mob .9446219203

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PUBLISH THE OTHER VIEW- DONT STIFLE VOICES

 THIS LETTER WILL NEVER BE PUBLISHED .

MUMBAILAITY

The Editor
The Examiner
Mumbai 400001
April 18, 2016

Subject: Amoris Laetitiae  –  for favour of publication

Sir,
Respected Italian journalist Antonio Socci wrote: “The Apostolic Exhortation is an open act challenging two thousand years of Catholic teaching. And in Catholic circles people are shocked and struck dumb in bewilderment.”
John Vennari, Catholic lawyer of international repute and editor of Catholic Family News, USA, now writes: “Amidst great drifts of verbiage – some not bad, some remarkably tedious – Francis effectively canonizes situation ethics. He furtively opens the door for Communion to the divorced and remarried on a ‘case-by-case’ basis, which destroys key elements of Catholic Moral Theology. In particular, his approach undermines recognition of intrinsically disordered acts, and once this is undermined in one area, it is undermined in all areas.
Was the exercise of two Synods on the Family and the expenditure of several million Euros on them by  a “to-be poor Church”  engineered to dispense mercy in the Novus Ordo “communion” particularly to Pope Francis’s sister, Maria Elena, who has divorced her husband and to the pope’s nephew, Jose Ignacio Bergoglio, and his live-in lover, Marina Muro?
John Menezes
7 Esperanca, S. Bhagatsingh Road, Mumbai 400001
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Vatican suspends external audit

Vatican suspends outside audit while reviewing contract

http://www.catholicnews.com/…/vaticansuspends-outside-audit-while-reviewin…

12 hours ago – VATICAN CITY (CNS) — Four months after announcing it had hired the firm PricewaterhouseCoopers to conduct an external audit of its finances …

Catholic World News

Vatican suspends external audit

April 20, 2016
A thorough audit of all Vatican offices has been suspended, in a major blow to plans for reform of Vatican financial affairs.
The Secretariat of State has informed Vatican offices that the outside audit, being conducted by the accounting firm of PricewaterhouseCoopers, was being discontinued. The audit was begun in December 2015, after Cardinal George Pell, the prefect of the Secretariat for the Economy, reported that a preliminary inqury into Vatican financial affairs had uncovered the serious undervaluation of assets, as well as unsupervised spending that created opportunities for mismanagement and corruption.
Cardinal Pell had pressed energetically for the imposition of regular audits and uniform financial controls, to bring accountability to Vatican financial affairs. His efforts have faced resistance from other offices of the Roman Curia, and the suspension of the PricewaterhouseCoopers audit appears to reflect a setback for the Australian cardinal.
The Italian newspaper Italia Oggi, which broke the news that the audit was being suspended also reported that Antonino D’Anna, who had been considered a candidate to become the new president of the Institute for Religious Works, had removed his name from consideration because of what he described as the “complex situation” at the Vatican bank. Italia Oggi interpreted D’Anna’s statement as a further indication that Cardinal Pell’s position has been weakened, and the financial reforms that he has sought to institute may be in jeopardy.
Cardinal Pell was appointed by Pope Francis in 2014 to head the newly formed Secretariat for the Economy, and given a broad mandate to bring order to Vatican financial affairs. He was appointed to serve a five-year term in that office.
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Syncretized “Catholic” is voice of the Indian church at Vatican event

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Syncretized “Catholic” is voice of the Indian church at Vatican event

 

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Canon Law being flouted in Mumbai Diocese

The following is an extract taken from Canon Law.

Canon 538 sub clause may 3 be read in particular

“Can. 538 §1. A pastor ceases from office by removal or transfer carried out by the diocesan bishop according to the norm of law, by resignation made by the pastor himself for a just cause and accepted by the same bishop for validity, and by lapse of time if he had been appointed for a definite period according to the prescripts of particular law mentioned in can. 522.

  • 2. A pastor who is a member of a religious institute or is incardinated in a society of apostolic life is removed according to the norm of can. 682, §2.
  • 3. When a pastor has completed seventy-Five years of age, he is requested to submit his resignation from office to the diocesan bishop who is to decide to accept or defer it after he has considered all the circumstances of the person and place. Attentive to the norms established by the conference of bishops, the diocesan bishop must provide suitable support and housing for a retired pastor.”
  • As per the said Canon the priest is requested to submit his resignation. No where does the said Canon differentiate between a Church, Shrine or bascilica. Even the Pope accepts the resignations of Bishops after they complete 75 years of age.
  • Yet Cardinal Oswald Gracias continues to keep Priests as administrators of Church Properties after they complete 75 year of age defying Canon Law. We are of the opinion that Priests may continue their religious duties if they wish after completing 75 years what we are saying is that they should no longer be administrators of properties and be sole trustees once they complete 75 years of age. Both the trusts where these two priests are posted are not giving conveyance to Societies namely Nirmala Colony Bandra under the trusteeship of Fr. Nereus Rodrigues and Our Lady of Lourdes and Our Lady of Vailankanni and Perpetual Succour Co-op Hsg Society under the trusteeship of Fr. Simon Borges.
  • Now see for yourself how Canon law is bent for certain individuals
  • Some examples where Priests who have completed 75 years of age and are still not being relieved of administrative duties are as per their ages taken from the official website of the Archdiocese of Bombay
     

    Rodrigues Nereus V. Date of Birth 05/04/1923 Age

    93

    Borges Simon Date of Birth

    10/07/1940

    Age

    75

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Stop Fooling the Laity

pg 40page 402 Societies have to be given conveyance ie ownership rights of the land withing 4 months of society formation. Builders do not give conveyance so as to get future benefits of increased FSI.

We are preached from the Pulpit do not covet your neighbours goods. What is practised by the head of the Preachers and one of the Popes Chosen 8 is just the opposite.

What is the difference between a corrupt business man and the Church?

Who is more corrupt?

Read the judgement of Bombay High Court given in Dosti builders case and see what the head of the Archdiocesan Finance Comitttee has to say and which is the correct position.

Would Jesus Christ have taken such a position?

Jesus was betrayed by Judas we too who have placed our blind trust in you are being betrayed.

Nirmala Colony, Our Lady of Lourdes, Our Lady of Vailankanni .All catholic societies are not being given conveyance as per the Maharashtra Ownership Flats Act and the buck stops at your door.

Now Cardinal Gracias let me tell you openly stop fooling us?

A.M.Sodder

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Ideal v/s Reality

Ideal vs Reality

Ideal vs Reality? UK Guardian

Guardian view on pope and

marriage: making good again

Editorial, Sunday 10 April 2016

Pope Francis upholds an ideal of marriage, but tries not to let it overshadow the reality

Pope Francis. ‘It’s certain that he believes the real business of the church is with those who can’t live up to its teachings rather than those who find it easy.’ Photograph: Stefano Rellandini/Reuters

                 (Note: The most unsettling statement in this editorial to my thinking is that Francis “ could not be expected to change the rules openly. Neither has he attempted this. Instead he has made it entirely clear that the rules are there to be upheld, to be admired, and learned from – and then crumpled like waste paper when that’s what justice demands.” Then are not all “rules” just barks without any bite? Then how is it different from saying: “Rules are made to be broken?” Moses did just that – in a fit of rage he dashed tablets of commandments to pieces — when he came down from the mountain and saw the chosen people dancing, reveling and worshiping the golden calf. Jesus did just the opposite. He told the woman caught in adultery: “Neither do I condemn you… but sin no more!”, upheld the rule after pardoning her. “Pardon always, but uphold the rule in the same breath?” Is this going to be the rule in this year of mercy? If so we better understand the logic of his saying: “The name of our God is Mercy, He is never tired of forgiving, it is we who are tired of asking forgiveness.” In a way it sounds contradictory – irrational and illogical – but that is going to be the way forward for the Church under Francis. Speaking more plainly by guaranteeing pardon for any sin every time is he not openly telling habitual womanizers “Don’t bother breaking rules, Mercy will have the last laugh?” james kottoor, editor)

When a pope pronounces, there are two mistakes to make. The first is to suppose that Catholics will feel bound to obey him; the second to decide he is not worth listening to.

This is especially true of Pope Francis, who has some really interesting and important things to say and fewer illusions than most recent popes about how they will be received by the faithful. His most recent production has been a summary of two long and occasionally acrimonious meetings of bishops about what the Catholic church should do regarding modern families in a changing world which is, in many respects, hostile to all forms of permanence, and to all promises that are unconditional, rather than contractual. The most neuralgic point was the reception of communion by divorced and remarried couples. This is something which is clearly forbidden by church law, and just as clearly accepted in all those western countries where divorce has become part of the pattern of normal life.

The most powerful lobby for official recognition of this change came from among the German bishops, who are financed by a voluntary tax collected by the state from people who identify as Catholics, rather than by direct collection from regular congregations. This means that they are rather more directly dependent on the good opinions of bad Catholics than most prelates. They also have a respect for the law, and a sense that it ought to correspond with the way that people actually behave.

Against them were ranged a coalition representing the conservative ideal, that the church ought to respect only the opinions of good Catholics, as defined by the hierarchy. Pope Francis himself would seem to have the instincts of the liberal party. It’s certain that he believes the real business of the church is with those who can’t live up to its teachings rather than those who find it easy. In everything he has said about mercy he is reaching out to those who have been wounded by life and even by the church.

The conservatives could – and did – point to 2,000 years of Catholic tradition. The severity of lifelong monogamy was always tempered by the process of annulment, available to rich and well-connected Catholics, but hardly to the poor. Nonetheless, this is an institution which takes its own traditions very seriously indeed. As the pope points out, he could not be expected to change the rules openly. Neither has he attempted this.

Instead he has made it entirely clear that the rules are there to be upheld, to be admired, and learned from – and then crumpled like waste paper when that’s what justice demands. Since this is really what already happens in many parts of the world, he can be confident of obedience from the liberals, while the conservatives can still trumpet that nothing has changed. But it has. “We must see in the women’s movement the working of the Spirit for a clearer recognition of the dignity and rights of women,” writes this pope, and: “It is legitimate and right to reject older forms of the traditional family marked by authoritarianism and even violencethe verbal, physical and sexual violence that women endure in some marriages contradicts the very nature of the conjugal union.”

This doesn’t mean that Pope Francis has signed up to contemporary liberal morality. The document repeats all the traditional dogmas: the absurd condemnation of artificial birth control, the rejection of IVF, and of gay marriage and the absolute condemnation of all abortion. But the weight and the passion appear to come when it upholds lifelong faithful heterosexual monogamy as an ideal superior to the ideology of mutual consumerist choice. He believes in covenants, not in contracts.

The case is sometimes pleaded in terms of earthy realism. Marriage, he says, is valuable because it is the greatest form of friendship. “It is a union possessing all the traits of a good friendship: concern for the good of the other, reciprocity, intimacy, warmth, stability and the resemblance born of a shared life.” Pope Francis is wrong about many things, and his church is horribly flawed. But anyone who can write that must after all be on the side of the angels.

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